They contain pages from a review of Ship of Theseus and are from February 1950.
A brief scan of the review shows that the reviewer is not exactly a fan of the book - "a vulgar ouroboros of a novel, filled to bursting with apathy, anomie, and omphaloskepsis." (Yes I did look that last one up !)
The second page has some adverts and other articles and I am going to work my way through them to see if there are any further clues in them. This post will be updated if any new information comes to light, please let us know in the comments, via twitter or email if you think there is anything new in the article or other material.
This is great news for fans of S. as it means to me that there are other things to come, whether this is a gentle push to get us to look further or just part of a planned activity I don't know, but interesting never the less.
Update 1 - I just realized Edsel B Grimshaw, and this review, is referenced on the Eotvos Wheel Website, on the candidates page
@ObFuSc8 also reminded me that this is mentioned in the book - "Chap7 IIRC along with the obituary). Magazine owned by Bouchard/ARP."
Lady Lobster also points out that it is mentioned on page 106 in Eric's margin note.
Update 2 - The WhoIsStraka Wordpress blog has a transcription of the review.
Update 3 - There was a lot of discussion yesterday about the contents of the review and the adverts, I have collated most of it in a Storify list
I think the main points are -
From one of the adverts an address could be the New York Public Library and a search reveals it has books by Václav Straka - (Link from @CFish6) Does anyone live near the library that could call in and take a look at the books to see if anything is hidden within ?
@ObFuSc8 has posted a list of references used for the adverts in the comments below.
@MyTheseus mentioned the "magic burgoo" mentioned in the review and wondered if this points to anything within the book, a search for links and references was started.
@MyTheseus also said "Review mentions 450 pages in SOT, but there are 456. Six pages missing…" - So does than mean the original version of SoT has been extended for our benefit ?
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ReplyDeleteSometime around the time of the book's release, Mulholland Books had made a comment about how most books are "talked about" around the time of their release and a short while afterward, but that they intended for S. to be "talked about" for a year. (Sadly, I can't recall exactly where I saw that statement anymore. o_O )
ReplyDeleteThat stuck with me though, especially after EotvosWheel.com was found and after comments by Abrams & Dorst (and the way Dorst answered a question @TK10815 had asked him in NYC). There's obviously more of S. "out-there", so to speak, but I've suspected for awhile now that a bunch of it isn't "out-there" yet -- that is that they are going to release it a bit at a time. Doug Dorst tweeting pics of the Edsel B. Grimshaw review in McKay's Magazine lambasting SoT fits with this approach to releasing ancillary S. information. I'm expecting monthly releases of new tidbits of information, possibly o the 19th of every month. It's interesting to that they chose to have Dorst tweet the review instead of releasing it on the Ilsa Dirks' tumblr or at EotvosWheel.com. The chances that this review was already out there and that we failed to find it are minimal. I ran searches (pic match searches, article segment and archive searches) for it and have found nothing.
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I'll post some of the examples here, that way everyone can take a look and see if this is something we should pursue or not. There's also the possibility that there's a puzzle of some sort hidden within the 2 pages (either in the ads or the review itself).
Possible reference ads from vintage magazines:
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BOOKFINDERS: I skipped this one. Thee's nothing exact in what I saw so far, but I didn't search specifically for this.
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I haven't had time to look through it or see if it might be related somehow.
That is interesting. Here is the quote and a few lines after.
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